Comments for The Deliberative Mind: Proactive, Reflective, Prescient, Egalitarian http://emergent79.wordpress.com A periscopic View from the Trenches of the Present. Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:37:45 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on The Reformation of Radio and TV Talk Shows — ATTN: George, Ed, Rush, David by tennaHaurften http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/the-reformation-of-radion-and-tv-talk-shows/#comment-12671 tennaHaurften Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:37:45 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1603#comment-12671 Nice blogpost, good looking website, added it to my favs!! Nice blogpost, good looking website, added it to my favs!!

]]> Comment on An MD Speaks Out on Health Care, Her Article Quoted by John F. Deethardt II http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/an-md-speaks-out-on-health-care-her-article-quoted/#comment-12670 John F. Deethardt II Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:23:01 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1588#comment-12670 Bravo, Elizabeth! I hope Dr. Ottaway checks back to read your astute response to her essay, to read a sensitive analysis of one of the most significant series of events on the whole debate of the issue. Your analogy of political action as theatre is apt. The actors in theatre have an aesthetic distance, seeing themselves both as the characters and the audience member's critical view; but, Elizabeth, don't the actors ultimately know who they are and what they are doing, where the bad politicians do not have that self-critical view, have lost their sense of a role in the larger view as the people's representatives in their vaunted self-importance? Bravo, Elizabeth! I hope Dr. Ottaway checks back to read your astute response to her essay, to read a sensitive analysis of one of the most significant series of events on the whole debate of the issue. Your analogy of political action as theatre is apt. The actors in theatre have an aesthetic distance, seeing themselves both as the characters and the audience member’s critical view; but, Elizabeth, don’t the actors ultimately know who they are and what they are doing, where the bad politicians do not have that self-critical view, have lost their sense of a role in the larger view as the people’s representatives in their vaunted self-importance?

]]> Comment on An MD Speaks Out on Health Care, Her Article Quoted by Elizabeth Fuller http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/an-md-speaks-out-on-health-care-her-article-quoted/#comment-12665 Elizabeth Fuller Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:52:52 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1588#comment-12665 First of all, John, deep and fulsome thanks for giving us this compelling blog from this extraordinary woman. Although, come to think of it, most of the real people I know in the medical profession are much like her. Would they were in the majority, hence ordinary. And second, I couldn't help noticing how her description of her experience in becoming a speaker, and the process of weaving the audience response into the whole experience -- how much this is the heart and soul of my entire life's experience of theatre. Theatre as I know it, that is, theatre that is for real people in the present moment, meant to stir consciousness, not promote after-dinner detachment. Entertainment, yes, certainly, but not a commodity. Dr. Ottaway spoke from her center, for once, and was heard, for once, and was momentarily blown away by the experience of strong response and appreciation. I will never forget seeing an actor have a momentary epiphany and accidentally connect directly with an audience (Thurber's Carnival, a direct storytelling piece). He was so unnerved by feeling the energy circuit completed that he went entirely up on his lines, and stood there like a deer in the headlights. Dr. Ottaway asked for help from her improvisation teacher. Well, brava. And how astonishing that there would actually be an improvisation teacher. The result? Community, in fits and starts. A public license to care, to be moved, to offer additional personal stories, most of them probably painful, some of them probably embarassing, and a few undoubtedly humiliating. And all these stories brought people together. Compare this to the Tea Parties. Not communication, but the brute application of heckling. I surmise that the only feeling of fellowship to come out of those meetings was the self-congratulation of the hecklers. What about all the people who came to ask questions, and possibly to offer their own experiences? Not a lot different from the sour experience of seeing a comedian devastated by a hostile audience in a night-club. Mayhap if we think of regressive political action as bad theatre, complete with the full panoply of deception and manipulation, and then think of positive progressive action as the equivalent of really good theatre, replete with insight, stimulation, energy, and above all, communication, we might begin to get somewhere in reversing this gluey tsunami that's currently threatening to envelop us. First of all, John, deep and fulsome thanks for giving us this compelling blog from this extraordinary woman. Although, come to think of it, most of the real people I know in the medical profession are much like her. Would they were in the majority, hence ordinary.

And second, I couldn’t help noticing how her description of her experience in becoming a speaker, and the process of weaving the audience response into the whole experience — how much this is the heart and soul of my entire life’s experience of theatre. Theatre as I know it, that is, theatre that is for real people in the present moment, meant to stir consciousness, not promote after-dinner detachment. Entertainment, yes, certainly, but not a commodity.

Dr. Ottaway spoke from her center, for once, and was heard, for once, and was momentarily blown away by the experience of strong response and appreciation. I will never forget seeing an actor have a momentary epiphany and accidentally connect directly with an audience (Thurber’s Carnival, a direct storytelling piece). He was so unnerved by feeling the energy circuit completed that he went entirely up on his lines, and stood there like a deer in the headlights.

Dr. Ottaway asked for help from her improvisation teacher. Well, brava. And how astonishing that there would actually be an improvisation teacher. The result? Community, in fits and starts. A public license to care, to be moved, to offer additional personal stories, most of them probably painful, some of them probably embarassing, and a few undoubtedly humiliating. And all these stories brought people together.

Compare this to the Tea Parties. Not communication, but the brute application of heckling. I surmise that the only feeling of fellowship to come out of those meetings was the self-congratulation of the hecklers. What about all the people who came to ask questions, and possibly to offer their own experiences? Not a lot different from the sour experience of seeing a comedian devastated by a hostile audience in a night-club.

Mayhap if we think of regressive political action as bad theatre, complete with the full panoply of deception and manipulation, and then think of positive progressive action as the equivalent of really good theatre, replete with insight, stimulation, energy, and above all, communication, we might begin to get somewhere in reversing this gluey tsunami that’s currently threatening to envelop us.

]]> Comment on An MD Speaks Out on Health Care, Her Article Quoted by John F. Deethardt II http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/an-md-speaks-out-on-health-care-her-article-quoted/#comment-12645 John F. Deethardt II Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:09:04 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1588#comment-12645 Both are CO-Primary, two sides of the same coin. Add in the millions who do not have health care, and also subtract out the billions in profits and administrative costs that go to the health insurance companies. HEALTH CARE FOR ALL! Everybody IN! Separate the nation's physical well-being from capitalistic drives. Both are CO-Primary, two sides of the same coin. Add in the millions who do not have health care, and also subtract out the billions in profits and administrative costs that go to the health insurance companies.
HEALTH CARE FOR ALL! Everybody IN! Separate the nation’s physical well-being from capitalistic drives.

]]> Comment on Republicans: Party of “NO!” by John F. Deethardt II http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/republicans-party-of-no/#comment-12644 John F. Deethardt II Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:57:46 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1590#comment-12644 I have always been a democrat, a very long time. I was not a constituent in any of those cases. I do not have the supernatural powers of omnipresence. Are you trying to pin some kind of responsibility on me? Stick to the subject of Republicans and health care. The kitchen sink is not relevant. Black and white, yes, metaphorically. We have two parties here. Never mind which is one or the other, and I hope there was no racial overtone intended. Each party has a profile which can be characterized, liberal or conservative, and applied to health care, the liberal view is that there must be a healthcare solution that involves a choice which is regulated and supervised by the Federal government, in the "STYLE" of Medicare, if not Medicare. To regulate is not to "take-over", but to "oversee", have "oversight", as government does in so many operations in our lives, does and is needed, and must do. Are you in sports? An athlete? Are you a fan of sports? All athletics are played by the rules, regulations, and all are overseen by the umpires, referees, side judges. Instant replay is available in the name of perfect oversight. Oversight is a government function. It does not "takeover" the game, which is still in the hands of the coaches and players. Government is exactly the same, a contest played with oversight. The government in healthcare would have that same oversight and management of the costs, while the actual care is provided by the doctors and hospitals. I believe that is the Democrat view. I believe we have that view as a way of extending coverage and keeping costs low. I believe the Democrat view is aiming at a more humane, caring, comprehensive, egalitarian health care program. The health care insurance companies have had numerous cut-throat policies. I do not know who you are. I cannot believe anyone who is not a big-wig in a health insurance company making millions by those cut-throat policies or some mercenary office-holder being handsomely paid off by a health insurance company with contributions to election campaigns could ever think of arguing against the Democrat approach. Unless you are a Republican-by-birth and dammit will remain a Republican come hell or high water (in other words, a knee-jerk Republican). I have always been a democrat, a very long time. I was not a constituent in any of those cases. I do not have the supernatural powers of omnipresence. Are you trying to pin some kind of responsibility on me? Stick to the subject of Republicans and health care. The kitchen sink is not relevant. Black and white, yes, metaphorically. We have two parties here. Never mind which is one or the other, and I hope there was no racial overtone intended. Each party has a profile which can be characterized, liberal or conservative, and applied to health care, the liberal view is that there must be a healthcare solution that involves a choice which is regulated and supervised by the Federal government, in the “STYLE” of Medicare, if not Medicare. To regulate is not to “take-over”, but to “oversee”, have “oversight”, as government does in so many operations in our lives, does and is needed, and must do.
Are you in sports? An athlete? Are you a fan of sports? All athletics are played by the rules, regulations, and all are overseen by the umpires, referees, side judges. Instant replay is available in the name of perfect oversight. Oversight is a government function. It does not “takeover” the game, which is still in the hands of the coaches and players. Government is exactly the same, a contest played with oversight. The government in healthcare would have that same oversight and management of the costs, while the actual care is provided by the doctors and hospitals.
I believe that is the Democrat view. I believe we have that view as a way of extending coverage and keeping costs low. I believe the Democrat view is aiming at a more humane, caring, comprehensive, egalitarian health care program.
The health care insurance companies have had numerous cut-throat policies. I do not know who you are. I cannot believe anyone who is not a big-wig in a health insurance company making millions by those cut-throat policies or some mercenary office-holder being handsomely paid off by a health insurance company with contributions to election campaigns could ever think of arguing against the Democrat approach. Unless you are a Republican-by-birth and dammit will remain a Republican come hell or high water (in other words, a knee-jerk Republican).

]]> Comment on Republicans: Party of “NO!” by Updapyweata http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/republicans-party-of-no/#comment-12642 Updapyweata Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:33:29 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1590#comment-12642 I really enjoyed reading this blogpost, keep up posting such exciting posts. I really enjoyed reading this blogpost, keep up posting such exciting posts.

]]> Comment on Republicans: Party of “NO!” by Cutler's Gone! http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/republicans-party-of-no/#comment-12635 Cutler's Gone! Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:27:37 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1590#comment-12635 The world is black and white to you! Were you a democrat when McGovern "defend" the University of Alabama? Were you a democrat when Daley ran Chicago? Were you a democrat when Blago ran Illinois? Are aware of what went on in Chicago when Blago was in Springfield? Do you know who was "appointed" to the Senate while Blago ran Springfield? Do you know what Rezko has yet to tell? Do you know who was at the "Purple Hotel"? The world is black and white to you!

Were you a democrat when McGovern “defend” the University of Alabama? Were you a democrat when Daley ran Chicago? Were you a democrat when Blago ran Illinois? Are aware of what went on in Chicago when Blago was in Springfield? Do you know who was “appointed” to the Senate while Blago ran Springfield? Do you know what Rezko has yet to tell? Do you know who was at the “Purple Hotel”?

]]> Comment on An MD Speaks Out on Health Care, Her Article Quoted by UT Sucks http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/an-md-speaks-out-on-health-care-her-article-quoted/#comment-12634 UT Sucks Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:14:55 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1588#comment-12634 I am confused. What is the primary objective? Reduce medical costs, or insure 100% of the population? I am confused. What is the primary objective? Reduce medical costs, or insure 100% of the population?

]]> Comment on Republicans: Party of “NO!” by YV http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/republicans-party-of-no/#comment-12633 YV Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:12:20 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1590#comment-12633 Regulation is great as long as I get to regulate! Regulation is great as long as I get to regulate!

]]> Comment on Experience Before Wisdom: Educational Implications by forex robot http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/experience-before-wisdom/#comment-12616 forex robot Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:50:50 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1531#comment-12616 nice post. thanks. nice post. thanks.

]]> Comment on Is There Such a Thing As “Political Genius”? by Scott Andersen http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/is-there-such-a-thing-as-%e2%80%9cpolitical-genius%e2%80%9d/#comment-12605 Scott Andersen Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:09:31 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1559#comment-12605 You make a good point and one which is helpful in allaying some of my growing disappointment with Obama. Perhaps he is a political genius. I certainly hope that he is. You make a good point and one which is helpful in allaying some of my growing disappointment with Obama. Perhaps he is a political genius. I certainly hope that he is.

]]> Comment on Comments on “Buying the War”, Bill Moyers Journal (3-7-2008) by Annie ( Quick Sale ) Wagner http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/comments-on-%e2%80%9cbuying-the-war%e2%80%9d-bill-moyers-journal-3-7-2008/#comment-12505 Annie ( Quick Sale ) Wagner Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:03:42 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=121#comment-12505 Excellent blog this emergent79.wordpress.com well done and I am really pleased to stumble on : this it's just what I needed to know. It's taken me literally 3 hours and 01 minutes of searching the web to find emergent79.wordpress.com (not really) ;) But seriously I am really interested in Unique Property normally and so I shall be very pleased to become a regular visitor Thanks and well done! Excellent blog this emergent79.wordpress.com well done and I am really pleased to stumble on : this it’s just what I needed to know.
It’s taken me literally 3 hours and 01 minutes of searching the web to find emergent79.wordpress.com (not really) ;)
But seriously I am really interested in Unique Property normally and so I shall be very pleased to become a regular visitor

Thanks and well done!

]]> Comment on Disconcerted Parents Complain About a President’s Pep-Talk to the School Children of America by REIT http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/disconcerted-parents-complain-about-a-president%e2%80%99s-pep-talk-to-the-school-children-of-america/#comment-12503 REIT Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:45:58 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1300#comment-12503 Your site was extremely interesting, especially since I was searching for thoughts on this subject last Thursday. <a HREF="http://www.xbox360forum.com/forum/members/lordraiden.html" rel="nofollow"> :) </A> Your site was extremely interesting, especially since I was searching for thoughts on this subject last Thursday. :)

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A definite great read..Jim Bean

]]> Comment on “Discussion” Makes Democracy Work! Beware of Unworkable Substitutes, Like “Conversation”! by Aaron Taylor http://emergent79.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/%e2%80%9cdiscussion%e2%80%9d-makes-democracy-work-beware-of-unworkable-substitutes-like-%e2%80%9cconversation%e2%80%9d/#comment-12482 Aaron Taylor Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:39:23 +0000 http://emergent79.wordpress.com/?p=1320#comment-12482 I don’t usually reply to posts but I will in this case, great info...I will add a backlink and bookmark your site. Keep up the good work! I don’t usually reply to posts but I will in this case, great info…I will add a backlink and bookmark your site. Keep up the good work!

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